when the iron curtain fell in the 90's, my parents went to russia with a group of other jws.
since then, they've taught themselves russian and now go over about every 3rd year.
they also work the russian territory here once a month and spend about 10 hours traveling around in a 100 mile radius.
If you're implying that I'm lying or that I don't have my facts straight, don't bother.
They went over in the 90's after the curtain fell and before the ban. They continue to go over. Notice I didn't say they go out in FS over there. Now they mainly just visit all their Russian friends.
And now since they can speak Russian semi-fluently, they're utilized in the Russian territories over here.
there are a great many puzzlements in regard to the meek and servile compliance of witnesses but one area has long interested me.
specifically, why don't more witness parents get angry at the do-nothing watchtower society?
i can recall one somewhat deranged elder's wife who got away with demanding to speak to the assembled body of elders because she was worried that 'all of of our kids are falling out of the truth'.
They don't get angry because the WTBTS has convinced them that if a child falls away, the fault lies within the child, not the parent and certainly not the bOrg.
The bOrg does not feel a need to provide for the cult children because "having the truth is enough." Children are expected to behave as miniture adults and sit still for 2+ hours and listen to things they don't understand. Teenagers are seen as feral beasts and can only be managed with a heavy hand.
I keep bringing this up, but when I was 14, I became severly depressed (b/c of growing up in this insane cult). Since JWs were not supposed to be depressed or have any mental health problems, some in the congregation decided I was demonized. I lost all my "friends" and instead of becoming enraged, my parents took the stance of 'they're wrong but you have to tolerate them and really, ultimately they're right.' So, I was "shunned" without being DF'd or DA'd!
That of course pushed me over the edge and I attempted suicide which made things worse.
Only when my depression abated, did these "true friends" and "spiritual brothers and sisters" talk to me again.
What bullshit.
My folks never once became angry even though 98% of what happened to me was because of the bOrg and other JWs.
when the iron curtain fell in the 90's, my parents went to russia with a group of other jws.
since then, they've taught themselves russian and now go over about every 3rd year.
they also work the russian territory here once a month and spend about 10 hours traveling around in a 100 mile radius.
I agree A@G. I wish I could tell them to eff off with their cult. My "conscious" won't allow me to break their hearts though.
I'm such a puss.
when the iron curtain fell in the 90's, my parents went to russia with a group of other jws.
since then, they've taught themselves russian and now go over about every 3rd year.
they also work the russian territory here once a month and spend about 10 hours traveling around in a 100 mile radius.
Just once I'd love to scream "I'M A *&^% ATHEIST! YOUR JEHOVAH CAN KISS MY ASS!!!"
But all that would do is break their hearts.
They are hopelessly indoctrinated and brainwashed. It really is sad.
when the iron curtain fell in the 90's, my parents went to russia with a group of other jws.
since then, they've taught themselves russian and now go over about every 3rd year.
they also work the russian territory here once a month and spend about 10 hours traveling around in a 100 mile radius.
Blasty--I tolerate their JW bullcrap for a lot of reasons. I don't want to, but at this point, I have no choice.
Anyway, I'm sitting here at work, and my phone rings. It is my mother calling from New York. She asked me how things were going, etc.
THEN she asked me if I went to the meeting Sunday, and how was it.
I CAN'T FREAKIN' BELIEVE IT! SHE CALLS FROM NEW YORK JUST TO SEE IF I WENT TO A FREAKIN' MEETING?!?!?!?
Naturally she got all upset and pissed when I said I didn't.
GAWD!!!
besides the folks walking with signs at each convention, what was your first taste of "apostasy"?
my first interesting experience happened within the kingdom hall.
my congregation in dallas (farmers branch) was in the same district as the bonham congregation which was about 70 miles northeast of dallas.. http://governingbodyletters.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-owns-kingdom-halls.html.
After 1975. I think it was at a DC in 76 or 77. I would have been 6 or 7 years of age. Apostates were picketing. My mother was just about shitting herself. She had my hand in a death grip and ordered me not to look at them on our way in. She was so focused on the apostates with signs, that she didn't notice one who didn't have a sign and was walking around trying to just talk to the JWs.
She looked like a kindly lady and smiled at me. I smiled back. When my mother noticed the apostate and I smiling at each other, she freaked out and grabbed me by my ponytail and yanked my head so that it faced forward.
I had no idea what an apostate was or what was going on at that point. I just remember almost despising my mother and thinking about the smiling lady and what could have possibly been so horrible about her.
Now I know.
why can they preach door to door ,but not inside the congregation?
Because women are inferior and the weaker vessel and are only suited for bearing children, cleaning house and cooking, and knocking on doors.
Or so they say.
when the iron curtain fell in the 90's, my parents went to russia with a group of other jws.
since then, they've taught themselves russian and now go over about every 3rd year.
they also work the russian territory here once a month and spend about 10 hours traveling around in a 100 mile radius.
When the iron curtain fell in the 90's, my parents went to Russia with a group of other JWs. Since then, they've taught themselves Russian and now go over about every 3rd year.
They also work the Russian territory here once a month and spend about 10 hours traveling around in a 100 mile radius.
I drove them to the airport Saturday morning because they're going to the Russian District Convention in New York.
They'll probably tour Bethel. Again. For the 4th time.
Natually they'll come back all pumped up and zealous.
Until then, I'm intensely enjoying not having my phone ring daily on non-meeting nights, and multiple times on meeting nights whining and nagging about going to the meeting.
The whole thing is quite sad.
....waking up to the real truth about the truth?......when it first really hit me like a shovel in the face.....i actually said to the co i would have to leave my wife and son (not hers)) and he is now 20 (not the co..my son), and i said it because i knew i would now never measure up to the "spiritual head" model.
cause i knew it was all bs...but have not really ran away yet....at least not for more than a week at a time.........doing better actually.......but did you want to at least move or something?
?...........oompa
I just got really really angry. I actually contemplated severely vandalizing local KHs at one point. I didn't because I figured out that no matter what you do, the JWs "are always right."
If you attack them, it means they have the truth and this is the persecution Jesus said would happen to those who follow him.
If you don't attack them and just ignore them, it means they have the truth and you're under Satan's control, otherwise you would listen to them. They'll look at you smugly because they think you'll be bird food "very soon."
If you speak your views, you're an apostate because they're "right and have the truth."
You can't win.
"the declining value of your college degree": http://online.wsj.com/article/sb121623686919059307.html?mod=todays_us_nonsub_pj.
quotes to look for in some "study edition" watchtower in 2009:.
a four-year college degree, seen for generations as a ticket to a better life, is no longer enough to guarantee a steadily rising paycheck.. a degree ... "isn't any big guarantee of employment...".
I read that article and had the same thought; the WTBTS will positively orgasmic over that article because using partial statements, it almost seems as though that article was written for them.
Truth of the matter is, you need a college education to get in the door at most places of employment.
Bets as to how long it'll take the WTBTS to write an article that "quotes" this article?
